Thread Name: Odd-Sized #7 Binding? From: <modlib@removed> ((Ron Holl) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 9:44:15 -0600 After deciding to change my ML sort of Regular from "all sorted by number" to "sorted by binding then number" (#1 - #7; #8-#13; #14), I noticed my 107.3 Portrait of a Lady / Henry James (1939) is taller than the other #7's. But it is shorter than a #8 (unlike the #7 Lust for Life that is the same size as a #8, correct?). Anyone else notice this? Is this type of size variation in #7's well known, somewhat common, etc? I have placed a scan of this book compared to another #7, and a scan compared to a #8, at www.mlcollect.com under ML Miscellany (then choose Odd #7 binding?). ------------------------------------- From: GORDON NEAVILL <aa3401@removed> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:43:42 -0500 A number of ML titles published before the adoption of the Blumenthal format were slightly larger than the standard format so that they could be printed from the original publisher's plates. The Kent endpapers in these volumes have a white border where the volumes exceed the standard format. The Portrait of the Lady was originally published in two volumes by Houghton Mifflin in 1881. The ML printed from Houghton Mifflin plates, which saved significant typesetting costs. This accounts both for the slightly taller format and the double sequence of pagination (427, 437 pp.) Taller than normal formats were less common after 1940 but were still used occasionally. One example is Charles Jackson's The Lost Weekend (1948). ------------------------------------- From: <modlib@removed> ((Ron Holl) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:11:21 -0600 Thanks Barry. I'll add your answer to the bindery page on ML Amenities. I didn't notice a white border on the end papers, but I'll look again. Henry's guide does mention the Lost Weekend, so I was aware of that one, but not Portrait of a Lady. Scot, should these be added to the guide update page when found? ------------------------------------- From: Scot Kamins <kamins@removed> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:20:39 -0800 >I didn't notice a white border on the end papers, but I'll look >again. Henry's guide does mention the Lost Weekend, so I was aware >of that one, but not Portrait of a Lady. Scot, should these be >added to the guide update page Well, I intend to add this stuff as booknotes on the proper pages. But where in the guide would the corrections appear? >when found? I didn't know it was lost. ------------------------------------- From: <modlib@removed> ((Ron Holl) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:55:04 -0600 >Well, I intend to add this stuff as booknotes on the proper pages. >But where in the guide would the corrections appear? Since Henry noted the 1/4 inch difference on Lost Weekend in the comment column, I would expect all such exceptions to be noted in the comment column. And any title lacking said exception would, I expect, have no exception. There is a "Comment column" table on the Dogeared Guide Update page. That's where I would expect to see it. >>when found? >I didn't know it was lost. HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! ------------------------------------- From: J B Krygier <jbkrygier@removed> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:23:57 -0500 A few "larger" sized MLs (pre-Blumenthal, ca. 1939) in my collection: Edmonds' "Rome Haul" (1st, binding #7) Glasgow's "Barren Ground" (1st, binding #7) Lawrence's "The Rainbow" (1st, binding #4; the Bernhard end- papers could more easily accommodate a slightly larger book than the Kent endpapers.) Lewis' "Arrowsmith" (binding #7) Spinoza's "Philosophy" (binding #7) Are there others besides "Portrait of a Lady"? The only binding #8 or later (until binding #14) I have ever seen in a slightly larger size is "Lost Weekend." I have never seen a slightly larger binding #1 through #6, besides the Lawrence. ------------------------------------- From: Scot Kamins <kamins@removed> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:29:55 -0800 John, are all of these 7.25" tall (versus 6.5")? ------------------------------------- From: J B Krygier <jbkrygier@removed> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:51:09 -0500 no - just a bit larger: a scooch under 6.9 inches tall. -------------------------------------