Thread Name: ML ISBNs

From: "John Wolansky" <jwol@removed>
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:22:52 -0400

At a glance, I have the following with ISBN's:

76 Education of Henry Adams, blank endpapers 73 Famous Ghost Stores, two copies with the same markers as the Trial mentioned earlier 68 Women in Love, Lawrence w/blank endpapers 50 Chekhov's Short Stories w/blank 28 Madame Bovary w Fuhita 15 Painted Bird w/blank endpapers.

And a half dozen more on another shelf! Later, maybe.

Is it possible a first ML printing from 1970 could have an ISBN?


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From: J B Krygier <jbkrygier@removed>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:12:40 -0400

There were only 5 new ML titles in 1970, so I pulled out my copies to check for ISBNs:

Styron: Confessions of Nat Turner (FMLED Feb 1970): two copies, no ISBNs on either DJ. Vidal: Julian (FMLED Feb 1970): no ISBN on DJ back. Camus: Notebooks 1942-1951 (FMLED Sept 1970): two copies, no ISBNs on either DJ. Kosinski: Painted Bird (FMLED Sept 1970): no ISBN on DJ back.

I don't have the Auden 2nd ed to check.

Short of knowing if the Auden 1st DJ has a ISBN, it seems as if no true FMLED DJ will have an ISBN number, and any DJ with an ISBN indicates a subsequent, post 1970 printing.

Interesting that John W. has a Kosinski with an ISBN - that indicates a second printing of that title.

One comment on ISBNs: in a quick internet search, I have seen both 1970 and 1972 indicated as the first time the standard was used in the US. Individual publishers probably adopted it at different times. I have no idea when Random House did.


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From: Darrell Johnson <zebradlj@removed>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:23:21 -0700 (PDT)

Random House is already listing the longer ISBN #'s for all of their current books. For anything that was already in existance the longer number simply adds3 digits in front of the previous number and alters the last digit to a new number. Their web-site lists both numbers for each title it has a page for.

On a similar topic: Some books have Library of Congress Numbers and others do not. The impression I have is that titles newly produced after a certain point in time seem to have them while older titles never got them even if they remained active until 1970. Is this correct? Can the appearance, or lack there of, of the Library of Congress Number help pin down the printing dates for any titles? Or is this bit of information always useless?


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From: "John Wolansky" <jwol@removed>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:23:51 -0400

Both my Auden books, 160.2, have an ISBN #. &^*%$!

Can anyone confirm a 160.2, stated second edition, without an ISBN?

You picky people are costing me first ML editions!


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From: J B Krygier <jbkrygier@removed>
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:04:29 -0400

A collector's work is never done...


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From: "JOSEPH HILL" <goodbooks@removed>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2006 17:01:30 GMT

Dats what I said! Only make it 160.3, in case anyone is just reading this stuff for the first time else, they sure will be confused.


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From: "JOSEPH HILL" <goodbooks@removed>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:45:52 GMT

As so few 2nd Editions of Auden are known to exist, I doubt we have a 2nd lacking an ISBN. I also think that the Painted Bird with a ISBN is a rare bird indeed.


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From: "JOSEPH HILL" <goodbooks@removed>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:01:30 GMT

I am sure you mean,160.3


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From: "John Wolansky" <jwol@removed>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:58:03 -0400

Correcto.


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